John,
Over the weekend, I accepted a challenge from MSNBC "journalist" Mehdi Hasan to debate the border crisis on his show.
This is a painful interview to watch, but if you wan't to see me stand up to a leftist MSNBC host who wants open borders, you should check it out. Mehdi ends up talking over me constantly - but at least it’s a rare example of a real policy debate on the issues.
MSNBC tried to pin me down with "gotcha" questions and soundbites for their liberal audience. But what they didn't know is that I know the facts better than they do.
WATCH:
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