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Subject Gavin Newsom's Podcast With Guest Ben Shapiro... Pass the Popcorn!
Date January 16, 2026 8:10 PM
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Ben Shapiro has been a personal friend for a very long time (another conservative Jewish kid who, like me, was an early friend of Andrew Breitbart), and he was just a guest on the odd Gavin Newsom podcast. Below are three YouTube videos for you. The first is just a short clip of Ben and Gavin, the next is a segment of the Ben Shapiro show, the first half of which is Ben’s take on the interview, with outtakes. You should watch this for sure. And for those with about two hours, you have the entire Newsom Podcast.
I would offer some commentary on this myself, but this is a crazy day for me, and so Ben is “helping me” provide you with some Friday afternoon content!
Enjoy!
(And I owe y’all a Winners & Losers in California Politics column for this week — they’ve all been picked, but my day job is likely to push it into the weekend or Monday — but fear not, it’s coming.)
Ben’s Take On The Podcast
If you want a preview, here’s just one Ben outtake…
And here is the podcast…
These are the time tags provided by Newsom (you can see his people’s phrasing on many timestamps).
00:00 [ [link removed] ] Intro
00:36 [ [link removed] ] Ben Shapiro Is California Raised
5:25 [ [link removed] ] Law vs. Politics
7:00 [ [link removed] ] How Bullying Shaped Ben
11:26 [ [link removed] ] Breitbart, Bannon & The Birth of a Right-Wing Media Empire
19:02 [ [link removed] ] Are Podcasts’ Influence Overrated?
22:06 [ [link removed] ] ICE in California, The Importance of Immigrants & The Benefits of Sanctuary Policies
30:01 [ [link removed] ] Solving The Housing Crisis & Fighting Crony Capitalism
38:47 [ [link removed] ] California vs. Red States
42:51 [ [link removed] ] Did Ben Actually Support Prop 50
47:33 [ [link removed] ] Is Donald Trump Trying To Kill Free Elections?
54:32 [ [link removed] ] TPUSA’s America Fest Speech, Candace Owens & The Right Wing Influencer Scene
1:00:50 [ [link removed] ] Shapiro’s Relationships With Charlie Kirk & Tucker Carlson
1:03:04 [ [link removed] ] Grievance Based Politics & False Nostalgia
1:08:50 [ [link removed] ] Trump’s Economic Troubles, The Affordability Crisis and The Tariff Failure
1:17:06 [ [link removed] ] Shapiro’s Justification of Trump’s Foreign Policy & The Greenland Question
1:19:49 [ [link removed] ] Trump’s Interference With The Fed
1:21:05 [ [link removed] ] Israel, Hamas, The Devastation In Gaza, & Criticisms of Bibi Netanyahu
1:30:30 [ [link removed] ] Gender Affirming Care Under Trump & The Right’s Weaponization of LGBTQIA Rights
1:41:08 [ [link removed] ] Is Trump The Scavenger in Ben’s Book?
1:45:28 [ [link removed] ] Rapid Fire: Midterm Predictions, Healthcare Subsidies, Vance vs, Rubio, Bondi’s Exit

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