Recently, I sat down with an ally in the fight for democracy, Nicolle Wallace, for a conversation. Nicolle and I chat a lot on her show, but there’s always more to discuss. We spoke about her incredibly interesting background, the devolution of the Republican Party, and offered a behind the scenes look at her primetime show. We hope you enjoy this extended version of our weekly conversation.

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Recently, I sat down with an ally in the fight for democracy, Nicolle Wallace, for a conversation. Nicolle and I chat a lot on her show, but there’s always more to discuss. We spoke about her incredibly interesting background, the devolution of the Republican Party, and offered a behind the scenes look at her primetime show. We hope you enjoy this extended version of our weekly conversation.

This interview has been edited for length and clarity

Marc: Nicolle Wallace, welcome to Defending Democracy.

Nicolle: It's such an honor. Thank you for having me.

Marc: It's amazing to be on this side, where I get to ask you questions for a change.

Nicolle: I'm nervous since I put all the tough questions to you every day.

Marc: I love your show. Everyone who follows this podcast knows I consider it my favorite show to be on and to watch. I've noticed your style is very conversational. How and why did you develop that?

Nicolle: I'm laughing because I usually have about 40 questions. Someday you'll hear my executive producer, who's a genius, letting me go as long as he can before reminding me that we have to pay our bills and get to commercials.

Maybe this is a product of aging on TV, but I find there's more I don't understand, more I need explained, and more I need clarified. Especially after last November, I feel the need to question everything: myself, my assumptions, and what I'm hearing in real time. I have to fight the urge to say...

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