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THE WEEKLY REVEAL
Monday, August 4, 2025
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The Bible Says Soā¦or Does It?
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Itās Hi. Iām Al Letson, host of Reveal and More To The Story.
One of my favorite people on TikTok is Dan McClellan. Heās a religious scholar with an armful of degrees and a knack for calling out misinformation about the worldās most influential and argued-over book: the Bible.
And today, there seems to be more misinformation about what the Bible and its authors were trying to tell us, especially from Christian nationalists, who far too often seem to be bending the message of the Bible in a pursuit for power. A few years ago, Dan began pushing back against what he saw as misguided biblical interpretations. And since then, heās grown quite a following: almost 1 million people on TikTok and thousands more on YouTube who look for his thoughts on topics like the āsin of empathy,ā what the Bible says about slavery, or maybe just to see what graphic T-shirt Dan has decided to wear that day. (He, like me, is a self-confessed comic book nerd.)
What I love about Dan and his videos is that heās not afraid to challenge someoneās long-held biblical beliefs, including mine, as youāll hear in this weekās conversation on More To The Story. I hope you check it out.
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They Followed Doctorsā Orders. The State Took Their Babies.
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Jade Dass was taking medication to treat her addiction to opioids before she became pregnant. Scientific studies and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say this leads to the best outcomes for both mothers and babies. But after Dass delivered a healthy daughter, the hospital reported her to the Arizona Department of Child Safety, which conducted an investigation and separated her from her newborn.
āI just couldnāt believe it, that people would act like this,ā Dass says. āLike how they couldnāt seeāit's, like, you have no humanity if youāre gonna take someoneās baby.ā
To understand the scale of this issue, reporter Shoshana Walter, data reporter Melissa Lewis, and a team of Reveal researchers and lawyers filed 100 public records requests, putting together the first-ever tally of how often women are reported to child welfare agencies for taking prescription drugs during pregnancy.
This week on Reveal, in an update of an episode that originally aired in 2023, we follow Dass as she grapples with losing custody of her babyāand makes one last desperate attempt to keep her family together.
Walter has turned some of her reporting for Reveal into a book about the addiction treatment industry, Rehab: An American Scandal, which comes out this month.
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